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Revelations Spiritual Healing E-Newsletter    4/15/04

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1. LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD; daring discussions with David Icke
2. Channeled message from the "Enlightened Ones" by Jan Krauel
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Greetings everyone,

In this issue we have a transcript from a recent David Icke interview.
Yes, he may well be the world's most controversial writer/speaker, but
after meeting David and having dinner with him a couple of years ago,
I realized that he is fearlessly speaking his truth. And you have to
give him credit for thoroughly researching his information and boldly
sharing it with the world, whether you accept it or not.

Publisher/Editor comments, Earl B. Hall


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LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD;
daring discussions with David Icke

by nicole whitney, www.newsforthesoul.com 


The following is an excerpt of the latest awareness-altering audio
interview posted on News for the Soul (dot com) where this UK based
author, speaker and journalist who is often billed as “the most
controversial speaker in the world” challenges the very core of our
collective beliefs about the world in which we live ~ and the
limitless true potential lurking just beyond them, awaiting us all.

>From a web of conspiracy and control reminiscent of the original
Matrix movie plot to a Utopian dream beyond imagination, David Icke
talks about how the game is played and how he says we can all win.

INTERVIEWER: NewsfortheSoul.com founder and host – conscious
journalist Nicole Whitney.

NOTE: This interview has been transcribed for publication with
permission of News for the Soul. You can listen to the full 2 hour
interview online at no charge by visiting www.newsforthesoul..com
Some minor editing has been done for effective translation between
audio and printed format.

NW: So, the last time we talked you were diving into some intriguing
explorations into the nature of reality. Where has that gone since we
talked last, David?

DI: Well over the last year to 18 months the way I’ve been working
and the way that life has been pushing me has been almost entirely
into the realms of what is reality, how do we create it and, most
significantly, in relation to the research into the conspiracies I’ve
been doing all these years and how is our sense of reality manipulated
to make us easy to control. In January of last year I reached a point
where I decided I was going to see if I could experience other realms
of existence – other realms of reality – and observe this one from
that point of observation because as the years have unfolded and I’ve
been doing more and more of this, if you like, five sense research –
names, dates, places & connections – into the global agenda for this
centralized world fascist state, that I’ve been talking about all
these years which is now unfolding, of course, right in front of our
eyes… I started to realize I could only go so far with that.
Because there were other levels to this and certainly those other
levels contain the solutions to all these five sense manipulations
that I was coming across.

I remember saying to my wife when I was coming to the end of the book
before the last one – Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center
Disaster -- that if I was going to go to the next stage of
understanding all this, I had to experience other realms. And not in
some dream state in sleep like ‘did I really experience that?’ but
actually in solid awareness. And as coincidence would have it, I was
invited, just after I finished that book, to go to the Amazon Rain
Forest in January of 2003 and take something called Ayahuasca which is
a plant – a rain forest plant – which they turn in to what they call a
turn and Shaman in South America have been using it for centuries at
least to take people into other realms of reality.

I could have taken it (Ayahuasca) about four times but I took it twice
and it was an experience – particularly on the 2nd night – that
completely transformed my view of life. What it did was take my
intellectual understanding o that the world is an illusion into the
realms of knowing it’s an illusion and there’s a difference between
intellectually understanding it’s an illusion and this level of
knowing it because you’ve experienced it. I got to the age of 50
without taking a single magic mushroom and I never even had one smoke
of pot or anything. I’ve never taken any of this stuff but I just felt
that the synchronicity of this whole situation - I was going to go
with it. So I took it and on the first night I took this tea that
tasted a bit like licorice and for about 2 hours or so, I went into
other realms and some amazing things happened.

First of all, I felt this enormous energy coming out of the heart
chakra area, or into the heart chakra area and then out again in an
arch to my head and it was so clear feeling that arch of energy from
my heart chakra to my head and other energy coming into the heart
chakra. I was in this dark room – just me and a guy who was observing
me and who is an expert in this whole Ayahuasca stuff --- and
suddenly out of no where, this strip light came on, and then a 2nd one
and then a 3rd one. The energy in the room was extraordinary!

I remember laying there. What happens when you take Ayahuasca is when
you close your eyes, you’re in another realm and when you open them ,
you are back in five sense reality and it’s very very interesting to
observe the two. . What happens, however, is your eyes don’t want to
stay open that long. They want to close, so you go back to where you
were. But I remember opening my eyes and seeing these strip lights
coming on and thinking what the heck is the guy turning the lights
on for? It turns out he hadn’t. He hadn’t touched the strip lights at
all. They’d come on all on their own. And the music he was playing –
that kept stopping and starting without him doing anything to it., so
the re was a tremendous energy in the room.

Over that night and particularly on the 2nd night, where I went into
this other state of awareness for like five hours, a voice spoke to
me. It was a very clear female voice or a female form is what it took
as clear as mine is now in which it talked to me for all these hours
about the nature of reality and how we create it. It was pointing out
that this world we think is real is actually an illusion generated by
our minds and, not least, generated by our belief in what is real.

Basically, what we believe to be real is what we experience as real.

But it’s just a figment of our imagination.

And the “Matrix” as I refer to it (and the voice referred to it as the
Matrix as well) is actually a gigantic thought form which we got
caught in and what’s catching us in the web, if you like, is that we
think what we’re experiencing here – what we’re seeing - is real.

And, as it was pointing out, the only difference between the dreams we
have in sleep and the dream we’re having now is we take this dream to
be real. And illusions can only control us when we think they are
real. When we know they’re illusions , they lose their control over
us. And so we’re living in a world that is so similar to the world
portrayed in the first matrix movie - a world in which we’re in a
dream world that we think is real.

There was hours and hours of this stuff which I detail in Time Loop
(my new book Tales of the Time Loop) but when I came back to England,
I started looking into Quantum Physics and psychological research in
the mainstream of science, if you like, to see if there was a
correlation between what this voice told me in this other state of
awareness and we call mainstream science , and I found the two
correlated incredibly. The thing about science is that people don’t
talk to each other, so this area of research establishes this
information and over here, somewhere else in another discipline or
another place, this area of research comes to this conclusion and
decide this information is true. But they don’t talk to each other.
And so this idea that this world is solid , is real and is the only
world that exists is still the prevailing idea that comes out of
science, as a whole. Where when you look at the individual areas of
research within it, the fact that this world is !
an illusion is already a provable fact. For instance, the room that
is around me now is made up of atoms – this so = called solid wall.
Well, when you look at the inside of an atom, it’s about as empty as
anything you can get. One physicist was pointing out that if you take
an atom to be the size of a cathedral , then the particles within it
are about the size of a 10 cent piece. The rest is – in this reality
– empty space.

Therefore, how can something that is almost entirely not solid, make
up this solid wall that’s in front of me now? It can’t. Our minds do it.

The real point where big pennies started to drop for me was when I
read of the research that shows that the only place that this world
– the room that I’m in now, the room that you’re in now, and the room
the listeners (readers) are in – the only place that exists is
actually in the brain. It doesn’t exist outside of us – it exists
inside of us because when information enters the eyes, it’s in nothing
like the form that we think we’re looking at.. First of all, it’s
upside down. It’s two dimensional and it’s in a very different form to
the world we think we’re looking at. What then happens is this
information travels through the brain to the visual cortex at the
back, The visual cortex is actually where this world actually exists
in movie form, if you like. We create it.. And as the information
passes through different levels of the brain, from the eyes to the
visual cortex, a massive editing process takes place in which,
according to at least some research, up to and sometimes more than 50
per cent of the information that enters the eyes is changed. Detail is
taken out that is there and detail is put in that isn’t there. And
what they’ve found is that this editing process is done on the basis
of that person’s belief in what is real. So information enters the
eye, it goes through the editing caused by the belief, and, by the
time it hits the visual cortex in the brain and registers as this
world we think is around us, it is a world based on our belief in what
is real.

“Once you start to realize that we are what we believe and we
experience what we believe, a very simple equation follows: He who
controls the belief, controls the experience.”

What we have done as the human race is we have conceded our right to
create OUR reality and instead we are creating an externally implanted
sense of reality. One of the things I did in researching Time Loop
was to go and see a stage hypnotist at work and that is precisely the
situation that we face. This conspiracy I’ve been talking about all
these years -- at its foundation and without which it couldn’t
prosper, is the manipulation of our sense of reality, And they do it
in precisely the same way that a stage hypnotist does it. The
hypnotist gets the subjects on the stage and he implants into their
subconscious a belief in what is real, for example. There’s a giraffe
in the audience or the woman next to them is naked. That belief then
dictates the subjects sense of reality so what happens is that the
information enters the eyes of the subject – of course without a
giraffe in the audience and with the woman next to them fully clothed.
But then it goes through the editing process of the implanted belief
by the hypnotist and it then re-arranges reality on the basis of
that belief and it puts the giraffe in the room and it takes the
clothes off the lady next to them so by the time the information hits
the visual cortex and becomes what we think we’re looking at, that
reality is re-arranged.

And when you think about it, we have a stage hypnotist in the corner
of every room called the television. We have stage hypnotists giving
our children and young people a version of reality – a belief in what
is real in what we laughingly call the education system. Once people,
as a whole, take on this implanted belief in what is real, they then
confirm to people around them that what they are looking at is
actually true. It is real because I can see it too. And then along
comes a few people who have gone beyond that and have realized that
it’s an illusion and they’re basically saying to them “hey – there’s
no giraffe in the room! Honest – there’s not!” And they look at such
people and they go “you’re mad! What do you mean there’s no giraffe in
the room ? I can see it, mate. Don’t be silly!””

And you see this editing of reality all the time. ………. So this whole
process of how we create reality is at the very forefront, Nicole,
of what I’m doing now because it is the bottom line of how we’re
controlled and it is the frontline of how we take our power back and
literally think this control and conspiracy and prison out of
existence and think and believe, if you like, another existence into
reality.

NW: So how exactly can we think away something that seems so solid?

DI: Well you don’t have to just think it away – you can experience it
while being aware of what it is . In other words, you can use the
illusion to your benefit instead of letting the illusion use you .
Life I’ve said in my books, we need to live life and not let life live
us. What happens for most people is life lives them and they’re just
basically sheep in a pen or sheep following someone in front instead
of them dictating their own reality and their own experience and we
don’t do it, overwhelmingly, because we believe – because of the
information we get from cradle to grave – that we have the power to do
it. Therefore, we don’t do it.

This is why we are bombarded constantly throughout our experience –
our lives here – with negative things about ourselves; about “we’re
ordinary men and women in the street; we have no power; we can’t do
this; we can’t do that’ … We live in an “I can’t” society. It may
masquerade as an “I can” society but the “you can” bit is as long as
you operate within the parameters of the Matrix – of the illusion –
which, as you start challenging the illusion, you suddenly realize
it’s an “I can’t “ society. So if you take on the belief, for
instance, that you are ordinary and powerless, then you are going to
experience ordinary and powerless lives because that’s what you’re
going to create. That’s what you are going to experience. What eve
the information coming in through the eyes, you are going to edit
that to support the belief that you are ordinary and powerless.

This is the real information. And of course the illuminati don’t want
us to know about their secret societies networks. They don’t want us
to know about the agenda for the global fascist state – the big
brother society .

”Of course they don’t want us to know that, but the biggest, biggest
BIGGEST thing they don’t want us to know is that we are creating our
own reality and that we have the power to create a reality that’s a
paradise or a reality that’s a prison or somewhere in between. We
are the ones with the power because we are generating the experience
and the world we think is around us when it’s really within us.”

That’s the power that will set us free. This is why they have worked
so hard to suppress it. They want us to believe that we are ordinary
and powerless. They want us to believe that this world is solid and
the only world that there is or that there is some god sitting in
paradise and – only if you do as you’re told according to the rules
and regulations in this solid world – do you get into paradise
afterwards. All these things are used to disconnect us from the
fact that we are generating our own reality and it’s an illusion .
It’s a dream world.

Now, we can generate a nice dream in which we have power over our own
destiny and we live in a paradise or we can generate a nightmare in
which we are ordinary, powerless and are controlled by the few to a
very, very dark agenda which is one we are currently, on the whole,
choosing to create. But we don’t have to. We can change it any time we
want.

One thing this voice in brazil said to me is “there’s really only one
thing you really need to know….. Infinite love is the only truth and
everything else is illusion.”

It was saying that understanding that we are all one consciousness is
something that we are seeking to return to and it is the thing over
everything else that the manipulators are seeking to deny us the
understanding of. They want us to believe in duality. They want us to
believe we are all divided – that we’re all single entities, if you
like. That is a recipe for limitless conflict and limitless
divide-and-rule because the fault lines that divide us all are
infinite when you believe in that sense of reality.

NW: So what about the perceived illusion of time?

DI What the voice in Brazil said to me was that this five sense
level of the Matrix – it referred to it as “the time loop” because it
said this realm of manufactured time was the most dense level of the
Matrix and was therefore the most important to it because of the
negative energy that it generated to fuel the whole Matrix which is
based on overwhelmingly negative energy and our belief in time is
fundamental to our disconnection from oneness because oneness is no
time. Oneness is just NOW. There is no past. There is no future.
There’s just now. And so if oneness is no time , if you believe in the
passage of time and you connect to the passage of time, and you flow
with a belief in this manufactured belief in the passage of time, by
the very nature, time will disconnect you from no time. Time is a
real real big disconnector and when you look at the history of how the
present version of time was created, the very same secret societies
that have been involved in the banking system and manipulation of
politics and all that over the centuries , they were involved in the
creation of time as we experience it.

NW: So timeless, non-vibrational existence is here and we’ve just
forgotten, as opposed to it being somewhere else?

DI: As this voice in Brazil was emphasizing, it’s not that this
realm is not part of oneness or that oneness is, as you put it,
somewhere else. The difference is oneness in awareness of itself
and oneness not in awareness of itself and we are in that realm of
non-awareness.

NW: So how we use this information to start transforming your own
world now?

DI: Well, it’s a challenge and I ‘m not sitting here saying it’s easy
because there are different levels of this and I can go into states of
being, especially on stage where I go into a completely different
state of being, where all these things are self evident. But there
are other times where you get pulled in to the illusion and you
start reacting to the illusion instead of holding that understanding
that that’s what it is – an illusion. The division’s an illusion.
What the person’s saying to you is an illusion and you’re interpreting
what they’re saying in your own way based on your belief. What I’ve
realized about my own life, and it’s made it a real challenge, is
I’ve got one foot in this world and one foot in another world. One
foot in this reality and one foot in the reality I experienced in
Brazil. You know, there’s a lot of people who are spiritually aware,
but they can’t connect with the next person to walk past this house
because they’re somewhere else!
: There has to be a bridge between the world we’re experiencing that
most people think is real and the oneness that we are. There has to
be a bridge that people can walk across. So I experience this world
very much as a five sense person. I experience all of the emotions; I
experience all of the frustrations; I experience all the things that
everyone else is experiencing and I have done, of course, since I was
born here. But there is another level of me that is increasingly aware
that it is all an illusion. Where my life is taking me now is
focusing more and more on this bridge so we can bring this awareness
of oneness – the infinite one that we all are – that we are not
droplets of water in an ocean, even, but that we are the ocean –
bringing that into peoples daily experience where they are worrying
about how to pay the mortgage, worrying about this, worrying about
that, pressured to this , pressured to do that, I can’t talk about
this ‘cause I have this to do because I have to survive… survive…
survive. To infuse this energy into that realm of experience which is
all about survival; that’s where my focus is taking me now.

NW: So where do we go from here?

DI: You know I’ve written goodness knows how many books now over
the last decade and more about the conspiracy and there comes a point
where we need to say “hold on – how do we change it?” Okay, we see
the problem. Now, where do we go with this. Understanding the problem
is just a mind generated illusion and therefore so can the way out of
here be, is the way that we need to go. We need to focus on knowing
this world you think is around you – it is inside you and you’re
creating it on what you accept to be real.

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*** Channeled message from the "Enlightened Ones" ***

by Jan Krauel 04/11/04

The Enlightened Ones are a collective consciousness comprised of
beings, at times, from the Great White Brotherhood and/or Galactic
Council.

Q: What would you like to impart to the readers at this time?

A: We would say to the readers that this is a time of
great turmoil. There is much going on in your world – much
that is causing grief and feelings of fear and discontent.
We tell you that you have the power to transmute all this
and more. We tell you that in your own minds and hearts
lies the key to transforming this time into one that will be
remembered for eons for the great transformation in people’s
hearts that took place. The way is simple. Simply feel love
in your heart for all you come in contact with. If you do
this, then nothing can fail to bring this about.

We will give you a secret. A way to reach masses with your
feelings of love and tolerance. If you would but imbue the
water around you with feelings of love, tolerance, peace and
any other emotion that is of love, then you would affect a
great change.

The waters of your planet are in great need of being cleansed
and rejuvenated. They are fast turning into vast areas of
death and destruction for those beings that live in them, and
for all of you who partake of the life beings of those
waters. This is no coincidence. You can change this in an
instant, if you all would but see these bodies of water as
clean, pure and perfectly sustaining of the life that abounds
within them.

You can begin with the water in your own dwelling. See it as
sweet tasting and clean and pure. See that all this water
touches will be imbued with the energies you see in it – love,
tolerance, peace. See that the waterways that this water
flows into is imbued with these energies as well. And so on.
And do not forget that a most important body of water is your
own physical body. See that each molecule of water in your
own physical body is healthy, pure and perfect. In this way
healing can take place at a very rapid rate.

We see this as a time of great reckoning. Will you be
willing to do your part in turning this around? Will you see
how each of you can do this alone, but that the energy of
multitudes doing this is beyond your current comprehension?
How long will you go waiting for someone else to solve the
problems of your planet? Will you wait so long that it will
be too late? This is a possibility, but we know the power
each of you has, and we have confidence that you will rise
to this problem, and solve it with great love and
determination.

You are highly supported by those in other realms. But we
need those of you in physical form to bring the energy of
your thought patterns to solve these problems.

You say you yearn for peace, but you go about your daily
lives in ignorance that you could be doing so much yourselves
in bringing about the solution. We know now that you will do
what we have asked, for your planet is one that has much
importance in the universal realm. You have done so much
already. Your prayers are heard and answered. But you do
not need to pray as much as to take action.

Know that you are loved beyond your ability to comprehend it.
We value each of you for the true and wonderful spirit that
you are. Each of you is special, and brings to your world
your own special energy. Never deny this in yourself. We
are here to help you realize the potential of each of you,
and of your planet. We are here to be the support system
that allows each of you to triumph and be that which you
have longed to be, and can be in your incarnation. All
this is achievable if you would believe it. And with this
we will leave you.

Jan Krauel, a Reiki Master and gifted channel, is listed on
our website as a "psychic writer". If you have questions of a
personal nature and would like assistance from your angels or
guides, please visit Jan at:
http://www.Spiritual-Healer.com/psychic-writing/ 


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